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The Z520 thread

« on: 14 June 2005, 16:49 »

Here are all the official photos of the Z520, the charming quadband clamshell we published the specs of yesterday. The size of the Z520 is finally 83 x 46 x 24 mm, and seems that the EDGE support is also confirmed (in the S600/W800 too), correct me if I’m wrong. The global Official Page isn’t updated yet, but the Spanish Official Page already showcases everything about the Z520. By the way, Se-nse.com has some live shots of all the new phones.
Read the Z520 Press Release
Go to the Z520 Official Page

















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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #1 on: 03 July 2005, 18:38 »
Unfortunately, EDGE is not mentioned in the SE Z520 White Paper.  I really hope there is EDGE in this phone and other new SE units.
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Z520 preview

« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2005, 17:05 »


As part of the testing of the new phones (check the S600 preview), I put my hands on the new Z520, which happens to be the most beautiful clamshell made by Sony Ericsson, ever  — few will disagree with this.  I loved it, and I'm eager to tell you everything I experienced, but firstly I would like you to take a look to the picture on the right, the Z520 prototype status screen. When I saw that, I immediately asked the people around me what the hell was that K426a thing and the only response I got was that it's the name of the firmware prototype, and not a future or rejected phone. But you know official sources, they can deny the existence of a phone the day before its presentation. Even so, if we take the risk of imagining a candybar "K400" with the same features as the Z520 (which are these), it would be weird for it to be better spec'd than the K500, of higher nomenclature. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time we find a Sony Ericsson named under a phone with lower specs (K600 > K700). The 26a part of the name shown in this screen would refer to the quadband access (we've seen xx26 models aimed at the South American market and the "a" models are for North America, both with different GSM bands). What would this "K400" mean in SE's range? A cheap way to get a quadband K700 with USB 2.0, sacrifying some 26mb of internal memory and with a slightly worse display. But honestly I haven't seen a phone of this kind in Sony Ericsson's 2005 roadmap. This could just be the least lasting rumour ever :)





The first impression you get when you hold this beauty is its compact size. It's far from thin, but it's still thinner than the S600, S700 and the Z600. It's also feels light somehow, altough the whitepaper says it weighs 96grams. The antenna in the Z520 fits with the overall desing just as well as in the J300, but is a bit bulkier than we've seen before. I guess four GSM bands need their space just as low and mid range Sony Ericsson need better reception reputation.



In the photo on the left you can see the S600 and Z520 with a J210 in front illustrating how the volume (cubic centimeters) of various kinds of phones can be the same while the distribution differs. Candybar phones are always slimmer and longer, right? Well then: well designed swivel, slider or clamshell phones are simply compact. What people prefers is a matter of taste.



In the next couple of photos you can have an idea of this new cover material treatment the S600 and Z520 are bringing. Quoting from the S600 preview: "the material used in the covers of the S600 and Z520 has a really cool matt finish. It seems to retain less fingerprints but I wonder if it will get dirty with time: the unpolished surface doesn’t ease the cleaning of, say, food marks. But the look is super stylish. In the case of the Z520 not only the material attracted my attention, but the colors available.

 

The main frame is available in white and silver, with 5 different covers available for each. I had the Light Purple, Light Blue and Chalk White covers, corresponding to the collection intended for the white Z520. Damn mess, yeah, you can just choose from 10 initial covers. Many of them remind me of what graphic designers call "female personal hygiene advertising colors", but I must admit they look awesome to me.



 Once opened, the white keypad immediately resembles the Nokia 2650, and blue leds appear everywhere. The number keypad may be the most comfortable of the SE range. Just as it should be, there's no vertical separation between keys and the shape of them creates a depression between rows. The feel of the click is accurate and soft. The d-pad is quite big as the one of the Z600 but at least the center button has been enlarged.







A smart idea is what gave birth to the leds that flash all around the phone when someone calls or messages are received. As you can see above (center) they're not exactly independent leds for that function, but the actual leds under the keypad. This means that when someone calls, it is the keypad light which starts flashing, and you can notice it in the exterior with the phone closed thanks to the pseudo transparence of the piece around the keypad.



In this unit, the central row of leds was broken, and the "Light Effects" option under the "Sounds & alarms"  menu is still under development and lead to nowhere.

In fact, I feel that the Z520 is a very design-oriented device. In some way it reminds me of the Z200, with its clean and smooth curves. It's difficult to understand why there are two design styles in Sony Ericsson lately. Almost gone are the days of the minimalistic designs of the P800 and Z1010 or the refinement of the T610 and S700. The three cover designs of the K600 are good attempts to stay out of the mass design but just not as exciting as formerly (there's a dangerous thin line between minimalistic and boring). The Z520 design, however, contrasts with the busy lines of other new phones like the S600 or K750. Photos don't do it justice, you'll fall in love when you get hold of one.
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2005, 17:10 »


The external screen ain't no Z800's 128x160px, but it's a nice touch to the cute device anyway. With 4096k colors all over its 80x101 pixels it's more than just functional (I think it even supports animated GIFs as background). I doesn't look to be very visible under direct sunlight conditions, and its brightness can't be adjusted (unlike the internal screen), but for a compact clamshell with no special features missing for 225€ I'm not complaining. Curiously, the press release mentioned you could take pictures with the phone closed, but if you notice the place of the camera and the absence of mirror, did they mean you could take pictures of yourself this way?

Speaking of screens, let's get into the big one. As you know, it's a 1.8" 128x160 pixel 65k color TFT screen, the same as the K500. Only the expert eye can difference these "low res" screens from the higher quality 176x220 displays of the upper range phones, altough the brightness and intensity is not the same either. The speed of the menus is more than decent, I couldn't find any place where it slowed down. Less pixels always mean less effort for the processor to move them along (that's why the S700 was always slower than the K700). The predefined themes clearly take all the advantages of the screen and the improved interface, and they're full of transparences and animations to show off, plus they're bright and beautiful (not always the case among new SE phones). There was this strange item under the General settings menu, "Turn On/Off GFX", apparently a developer-only option whose effect in the interface I couldn't find. Apart from all the graphics in the screen being redrawn, nothing changed when switching from On to Off or viceversa.

That's what a scant 15 minutes with a very early prototype can offer. I am no market predictor but the Z520 deserves to be a best seller "all around the world" (the quadband will surely help that). If only it had 10 or 12 megabytes more of memory...

Pros:
Compact form factor
Attractive design
Excellent conectivity with Quadband, Bluetooth and USB 2.0
Famous K700 VGA camera with "Expanded" mode for near megapixel photos
Price

Cons:
Only 16mb of memory
Low resolution display
Can't take photos comfortably with phone closed

See also:
The Official Photos of the Z520
Z520 specifications (S600, Z520, J210 and K608 are official, no photos yet)
Photos of Ellen and Zoe
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #4 on: 08 July 2005, 18:28 »
Looks like the Z520 isn't very popular (as expected). Still waiting for SE to launch a high-end (non-3G) flip phone.
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #5 on: 25 August 2005, 01:27 »
Looks like the Z520 isn't very popular (as expected). Still waiting for SE to launch a high-end (non-3G) flip phone.

Old thread but never to late to find fans...

I notice the same... it seems that the Z520 isn't taking that much attention as I would guess it would have.
in one thing I'm certain.. i'll save my money for this phone.
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #6 on: 26 October 2005, 02:23 »
Sorry for not posting anything in the past week, I’ve been busier than SE’s lawyers in spyshot times. Let’s get back to blogging with Mobileburn’s review of the Z520, the small and light Quadband clamshell we also previewed in July. And even without the EDGE support U.S. residents miss so much, the Z520 gets another top Mobileburn Highly Recommended rating for Sony Ericsson:

“As far as mid-level GSM handsets go, there is nothing in my mind that tops the Z520. In fact, if it had EDGE data support, I’d have nothing to complain about at all. The Bluetooth system works well, the light effects are very cool, and it is a nice compact handset. In short, it is just great all around. With that much said, it should be no surprise that I give the Sony Ericsson Z520 a “Highly Recommended” rating. If you like Sony Ericsson phones and don’t need the memory card slot or 2 megapixel camera of the K750, this is probably your handset.”
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #7 on: 27 October 2005, 21:39 »
when you say "cant take pictures comfortably with phone closed", are you comparing it to the z500a? and also does this mean that one cant take pics with the phone closed at all or its just stressful?
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #8 on: 28 October 2005, 00:04 »
i haven't tested the z500a, but i guess it's the same case. from the preview "Curiously, the press release mentioned you could take pictures with the phone closed, but if you notice the place of the camera and the absence of mirror, did they mean you could take pictures of yourself this way?"

that's what i mean, you can't take a picture of something in front of you while at the same time looking at the screen (to see what you're pointint at).
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2005, 01:40 »
yes the z500 is like that. you can take pictures of yourself while the phone is closed but you cant take pictures of other things really becuase you cant see what you're taking a pic of (what you said). so that feature is mainly for taking pics of yourself
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #10 on: 28 November 2005, 12:35 »


In contrast with Mobileburn’s review, in which the only negative point was the lack of EDGE, Mobique finds a few other problems in an otherwise excellent handset (especially price-per-features wise). The most crucial one seems to be a too sensitive camera button that keeps starting the camera application and taking photos while the phone is in the pocket or even just holding it with the hand. I have my doubts about this being a general problem: usually all SE’s camera buttons have to be pressed more than one second in order to start the camera application; maybe the button in Kinny’s unit got stuck on “pressed” possition. What’s your experience? Check out the review, they have a couple of videos of the cool light effects.
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2005, 08:22 »
On my z520i the camera button needs to be pressed for some time and works roughly the same as on my previous z600i. No problems with that here.

There is, however, another strange thing it does:
I have two friends who have almost identical phone numbers; one is +3161xyz, the other is +3162xyz (where xyz are, of course, identical, but I don't feel like publishing their complete numbers). Now, I get a call from friend #2, the phone will tell me it's from friend #1. If friend #1 calls, it will tell me correctly that it is friend #1. Even worse, if I select friend #2 from my address list for an SMS message the phone will tell me I have selected friend #1, and, though the message gets sent correctly to friend #2, the phone will insist I sent it to friend #1.

Anyone know where I can report this to SE and if such reports do any good?
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #12 on: 01 December 2005, 16:03 »
I don't know if its only SE using that scheme of getting phonenumbers.

That "functionality" is good to recognize a number in both Int (+Countrycode) and normal (widhout country code). I think I can't explain well this. My english is lousy today.

Maybe the solution would be to increse of numbers that would have to be the same  in order to recognize the right number.

You say that you had a z600.. did it happen the same in that phone?

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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #13 on: 05 December 2005, 13:04 »
Ups, thanks for replying.

The Z600 did not have that problem (nor any other specific problems, great phone, although it crashed a couple of times). In the Netherlands (+31), mobile phone numbers start with (0)6. So, the 1 and 2 are the first digits in the respective phone numbers.

I don't understand what you mean by "scheme"? Do you suggest I add extra digits to the end of the phone number?
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #14 on: 06 December 2005, 12:18 »
Maybe you could try deleting and readding the numbers?
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File syetem manager

« Reply #15 on: 31 January 2006, 22:51 »
Having problem with the file manager for the Z520i.  "Not connected"
The sync and send pictures and so on is working but NOT the file manager. Just an icon with a questionmark ???
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Using USB cabel
Pls help!!!
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Re: The Z520 thread

« Reply #16 on: 07 April 2006, 02:07 »
New Z525

The new Z525 adds a little bit of juice to it’s Z520 clone by supporting Push To Talk (thus to be sold only in the US) as well as its known Quadband connectivity and compact clamshell form factor that has made it one successful Sony Ericsson in Europe so far.

Z525 Official Page

Z525 Press Release
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